Curse

Shadowspawn X · Oct 04, 2008, 07:36 AM // 07:36

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Originally Posted by Wrath of m0o

Heck.. I would be happy with just being able to open chests on all my characters, instead of just being able to open chests and identify items with my main character, it really keeps me from playing the rest of my characters.

Dude you lie. You shelve a toon because he may pass by two chests while doing a mission? Be honest man the bs is getting too deep in this thread.

Sjeng · Oct 04, 2008, 09:37 AM // 09:37

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Originally Posted by Heloniar

*slow clap*

Azazel, you're my favorite now

same here lol

Angry Clap Man applauds for you.

Heloniar · Oct 04, 2008, 10:18 AM // 10:18

too bad that nwmu posted again, guess there's no end to his opinion...

all grind=bad for GW mmkay?

and that man is from Citizen Kane btw :P Orson welles!

Kashrlyyk · Oct 04, 2008, 10:38 AM // 10:38

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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin

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This is basically done with quests, but you can do every quest in all the games and for the more annoying grind titles (i.e. Kurzick, Luxon, Wisdom, Treasure Hunter) you won't even be half way, probably not even 1/4 of the way. ....

Doing all the quests, that reward Kurzick points, once nets you 2-3% of the max title. That is with the double reward you get for donating them.

komma · Oct 04, 2008, 10:38 AM // 10:38

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Originally Posted by komma

dang there is alot of high hopes here regarding title changes.....

11 pages later story remains the same

Zehnchu · Oct 04, 2008, 04:19 PM // 16:19

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Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk

Doing all the quests, that reward Kurzick points, once nets you 2-3% of the max title. That is with the double reward you get for donating them.

To bad it wasn't that way when factions came out. This of count's for making new characters.

nvmu · Oct 04, 2008, 05:40 PM // 17:40

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Originally Posted by Heloniar

too bad that nwmu posted again, guess there's no end to his opinion...

all grind=bad for GW mmkay?

my point is you have bit**ing about 1 grind when people are just going to use the stuff from the titles and the ranks that pugs require to grind, either way gw is grind once you get through the game, there is no end to it, gw was not meant to be a grind game however it is the way it has been for a long time, changing 1 aspect of the grind will not have that great of an effect on gw to bother with it, the only possable outcome to suit everybody would be leave gw1 as it is and fix gw2 before it comes out so there is no grind at all, which would include...

1)heavy anti farming codeing
2)very easily achievable titles
3)no cart titles because that is grind
4)no pvp titles because all of those are grinds
5)no elite areas because people farm those which is a form of grinding
6)no elite armor or weapons because they involve grinding to get the assets to get them

do you see my point? gw is all grinding, it was not made to be but it is so get over it and play the game and stop bit**ing about grinding when that is all it is after you get through the game

Heloniar · Oct 04, 2008, 06:14 PM // 18:14

nvmu you just don't get it. 5 or 6 people have tried to tell you the exact same thing. you can go now, and preen your pretty feathers so you can parade around and saying how leet you are for grinding to gwamm the hard way

nvmu · Oct 04, 2008, 07:19 PM // 19:19

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Originally Posted by Heloniar

nvmu you just don't get it. 5 or 6 people have tried to tell you the exact same thing. you can go now, and preen your pretty feathers so you can parade around and saying how leet you are for grinding to gwamm the hard way

lol wtf are u talking about, i don't get what? you are not giving any thing for me to get? i agreed that having multiple characters trying to get rank titles on would be tedious, and i have never once called myself "leet", and gwamm is suppose to be hard to get, gwamm is for the hardcore gammer not the casual gamer, i have given ways to reduce the necessary required title rank/faction quests requirements, and what you don't agree that everything post storyline is grinding, because it sure as hell is, and i also agreed that gw was not suppose to be grind but it is, and i did say they should change it in gw2, however there is very little replayability, you can do everything the exact same way everytime in gw, and do your realize that they did change the min on eotn rep skill to increase it so that you didn't have to grind so much on them? they only leg you have to stand on here is the lux/kurz titles, which fine raise the min amounts on them like they did on the eotn rep points, however once again they are pve title track skills they should have a max on them to give the bonus to the people that take the time to max the title

every casual player should be fine getting through the game without high title ranks, and if they can't then join a guild that does that stuff so you don't have to pug and show ranks
the titles are an advantage to the hardcore gamers who put in all the time and effort, the hardcore gamers usually have a main, what do you not comprehend about that?

Heloniar instead of flaming why don't you actualy go get some facts and evidence

komma · Oct 04, 2008, 07:57 PM // 19:57

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Originally Posted by nvmu

2)very easily achievable titles

i would love to pimp smack you dead in the mouth for that.....titles in no way should be easily achievable...max titles are there for anyone who is diligent/stupid enough to put in the time and effort to achieve that title, and they are rewarded for it w maximum status.....titles arent supposed to be had by every invalid w a keyboard...give your heads a damn shake...anet actually DID a decent job on the titles in gw1....now for gw2 they need to make titles even harder to get.......time to put the babies to bed.

nvmu · Oct 04, 2008, 07:59 PM // 19:59

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Originally Posted by komma

i would love to pimp smack you dead in the mouth for that.....titles in no way should be easily achievable...max titles are there for anyone who is diligent/stupid enough to put in the time and effort to achieve that title, and they are rewarded for it w maximum status.....titles arent supposed to be had by every invalid w a keyboard...give your heads a damn shake...anet actually DID a decent job on the titles in gw1....now for gw2 they need to make titles even harder to get.......time to put the babies to bed.

i agree, i was just stating ways to make the game grind free because people in this thread would like to see the grind removed, which in order to remove grinding all round it would change the game near completely (the 6 points in post 347 if not more then that)

Elle Bishop · Oct 04, 2008, 10:32 PM // 22:32

The only real way to remove grinding is to remove all titles from the game. It is nice though that they are removing some of the grind.

Darmikau · Oct 05, 2008, 12:28 AM // 00:28

IBsurvivorfordeadcharacters

Hyper Cutter · Oct 05, 2008, 12:57 AM // 00:57

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Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk

Doing all the quests, that reward Kurzick points, once nets you 2-3% of the max title. That is with the double reward you get for donating them.

Unless you did that before the Kurz/Lux titles were introduced, in which case all the faction you spent literally doesn't count (which Anet really needs to fix, and since the total faction you've accumulated appears when you mouse over the faction bars, presumably this can be done).

Konig Des Todes · Oct 05, 2008, 02:46 AM // 02:46

-ignores idiocy-

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Originally Posted by Darmikau

IBsurvivorfordeadcharacters

too late

Fox Reeveheart · Oct 05, 2008, 03:57 AM // 03:57

off-topic-ish but I don't want titles in GW2. I have like 8 max titles but I still believe they were a failure to be part of the premise of being the "casual gamers" game.

Far too late to get rid of titles in GW1 since now it's going to effect aesthetically pleasing stuff you get in GW2.

Linking skills to title rank = bad. I have all 4 eotn factions maxed and r9 sunspear and I still think this is horrible. Though it's a bit forgiveable being pve only.

Linking weapon/armor crafts to title rank = ehhhh ok. I can at least see that being like "You have come along far enough in our organization that I give you the option to have these gifts."

linking items to titles (Namely rainbow phoenix) = SUPER BAD

Konig Des Todes · Oct 05, 2008, 04:10 AM // 04:10

If any titles make it to GW2, it should only be the achievement titles, maybe, dunno about this, but maybe PvP titles as well. But I definantly want Protector, Cartographer, Vanquisher, etc. in GW2, don't care about any others.

nvmu · Oct 05, 2008, 04:44 AM // 04:44

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Originally Posted by Fox Reeveheart

off-topic-ish but I don't want titles in GW2. I have like 8 max titles but I still believe they were a failure to be part of the premise of being the "casual gamers" game.

Far too late to get rid of titles in GW1 since now it's going to effect aesthetically pleasing stuff you get in GW2.

Linking skills to title rank = bad. I have all 4 eotn factions maxed and r9 sunspear and I still think this is horrible. Though it's a bit forgiveable being pve only.

Linking weapon/armor crafts to title rank = ehhhh ok. I can at least see that being like "You have come along far enough in our organization that I give you the option to have these gifts."

linking items to titles (Namely rainbow phoenix) = SUPER BAD

well the game is made to be playable by casual gamers, however being that the hardcore gamers need stuff to keep them interested in gw you have titles and bonus to having titles maxed, linking skills to title ranks is to provide bonuses to the hardcore gamers, having titles in gw2 or not doesn't really matter to me, however no titles just mean as soon as hardcore gamers get done with the basic game they are going to have nothing left to do in the game, and stop playing, which will reduce the chance of people buying games made my anet in the future, and gw does not have replayability and most likely gw2 will not

lordheinous · Oct 05, 2008, 05:02 AM // 05:02

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Originally Posted by nvmu

well the game is made to be playable by casual gamers, however being that the hardcore gamers need stuff to keep them interested in gw you have titles and bonus to having titles maxed, linking skills to title ranks is to provide bonuses to the hardcore gamers, having titles in gw2 or not doesn't really matter to me, however no titles just mean as soon as hardcore gamers get done with the basic game they are going to have nothing left to do in the game, and stop playing, which will reduce the chance of people buying games made my anet in the future, and gw does not have replayability and most likely gw2 will not

Dude, repeating an action 258,381 times in as short a time frame does not make you "hardcore", it makes you an obsessive freak who is willing to RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO out their life in order to be able to stare at their screen while they make sweet love to their cd drive. "Hardcore", if it means anything at all, would be spending large amounts of time and effort working to improve one's skills, and in gw, this would almost certainly in the realm of pvp.

What grind enables is the feeling of being special that is usually reserved for those who have developed skills, achieved great accomplishments, or become otherwise well known, for any idiot who has some excessive free time and the ability to do repetitive actions. This is, indeed, a fairly large portion of the human race, at least that play video games, as evidenced by the current mmo market; however, gw is not (supposed to be) one of those games that is grind with thrown in graphics.

There are plenty of games out there that are all grind, where you can be as "hardcore" as you want; no reason to try to turn gw into a grindfest, unless you're somehow philosophically against the idea of online games not containing grind....in which case your posting here is basically trolling.

Konig Des Todes · Oct 05, 2008, 05:50 AM // 05:50

Forgot to mention this in my last two posts....

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Originally Posted by Sjeng

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Originally Posted by Heloniar

*slow clap*

Azazel, you're my favorite now

same here lol

Angry Clap Man applauds for you.

What? I'm actually liked now? O.o

What did I finally do right?

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Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk

Doing all the quests, that reward Kurzick points, once nets you 2-3% of the max title. That is with the double reward you get for donating them.

Someone did the math for me. Well, it's less then 1/4.

So I wasn't wrong. Point stands, Kurzick/Luxon title=too much grind.

I'm losing interest in arguing over the rest, my stubbornness is finally at it's end... I thought it was impossible to happen.